don't disobey this rule: DO NOT buy cut-outs!
my brother got it for me, so I assumed he would ask questions and look into it, and he also consumed the pill, but that was his first time "rolling" so he didn't really know what he was doing, but since my dealer got caught up, and my area was dry, I was willing to give it a shot.
I split the pill with my boyfriend, and was positive it was pipes as soon as i started feeling effects; the first sign being that my legs felt weak. I wasn't rolling, I just had some psychedelic, dissociative/very confused, energetic effects that would come and go in waves. I never got the beautiful euphoric rush, teeth grinding, or lovey-dovey feelings, all of which I always experience on mdma.
When I walked around the venue, it would sometimes feel like the floor was really tilted, or as if i was falling to one side when I wasn't. I had a poor sense of balance especially when I walking down stairs--kind of like being drunk, but a little different.
It also felt as if I was sober or even drowsy for about 5 minutes, then I felt fucked up in a good way, happy, able to enjoy music, but also slightly disoriented and confused for about 30 minutes. This pattern continued over the course of about 6 hours. 8 hours after consuming the pill, i was still wide awake. I wasn't able to sleep until 10 hours after taking the pill. The comedown was surprisingly smooth, considering it was a pipe pill, but it was difficult to fall asleep completely.
Pipes can feel different for everyone, but I would not recommend this pill. I actually was fortunate in that i could enjoy the effects, and never vomited or felt tweaked, but it is *nothing* like mdma!
***my full dancesafe test kit is on its way in the mail, and I am ordering a piperazine kit from eztest. I will post test results as soon as i receive the kit! I saved scrapings before consuming, so I could test it once my kit arrived. I do not have pictures though, sorry! it looks exactly like this one but yellow: http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=28943***
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6 Comments
swizol (member since November 7, 2005)
prob 2c sutn......and there are some legit cutouts right now....Just have to have access to a tester.
March 20, 2012, 6:47 pm GMTtrippytrippyyy (member since March 17, 2012)
they are definitely not 2c-xx, i have had 2-CE twice and know what it feels like. I will update with the pill test results
March 20, 2012, 6:53 pm GMTrollinbiscuit (member since June 29, 2009)
@ swizol: possible 2cx but could be pipes or 5-meo dipt an unidentified. who knows. u are right there are SOME legit cutouts..but 9/10 are bullshit. u def need a tester as u said.
March 20, 2012, 9:05 pm GMT@trippy glad ur gonna test these.. but if there not 2c chemical an are pipes or 5-meo they wont give a reaction so most likely not gonna be able 2 find out exactly whats in them.
ravescene (member since March 4, 2012)
I have already seen a few reports for these Monkeys and Paul Franks. None have been good. This is what this website is good for, to indentify bunk shit. But my question is... why do I keep seeing reports for these two same pills? I hope people are not spending money on this crap.
March 20, 2012, 9:40 pm GMTtrippytrippyyy (member since March 17, 2012)
@rollinbiscuit ...until now! :) eztest from england now has a test kit that specifically *tests for piperazines!!* here's the link: http://www.eztest.com/2/testkits/other-test-kits/ez-test-mcpp-for-pipeerazines#ecwid:category=0&mode=product&product=5618565
March 21, 2012, 4:05 am GMTi'm hoping that by testing for pipes & showing the results, and by posting this test kit link around, more people will buy this test--spread the word!
@ravescene yes i know, i read that cut-outs are bad & paul franks suck, but my brother told me they were fine when i sounded skeptical. i should have trusted my gut!
smokinak (member since March 23, 2012)
Okay i took it on Tuesday 6 nights ago. beware!!!
March 27, 2012, 4:30 am GMT2am (early wednesday) ate half an orange bart simpson cutout.
230am slight body high ate remainder half of orange bart simpson cutout
3am full roll with dancing, stretching, happiness,techno/dance music awesome
330am roll already subsiding. MDxx Low at best
330am ate half of yellow monkey cutout (later to learn here a.k.k "Paul Frank"
345am !!! roll completely gone and replaced with paranoia
345am-5am tried lights on lights off softer music easy listening no music needed some kind of background noise. paranoia reaching delusional. heart beat so fast i eventually went up to my roommate's room to ask for help. I have had this feeling before. but it was after smoking cocaine for several hours. combine 10 episodes of that into one experience and then multiply the intensity by 25 and that is how paranoid i was feeling. roommate stayed wiht me until 8am when he had to go to work.
8am roommate leaves, i am alone in my room all day watching the minutes NOT exactly tick away. I would stare for at least a full minute at the clock and the finally look away at one of the many items inducing paranoia and conspiracy theories, staribng at 3 or 4 separate objects for at least a minute each. finally returning gaze to clock only to see that the minute had still not changed. wtf?
heart beating super super fast and i thought i was having trouble breathning...then realized i was holding my breath. I had to remind myself to breath out. a large forced noisy exhale was the only thing that calmed me down somewhat.
8am to 3pm no reduction, i mean zero slow down in heart beat. still wide awake with zero success in closing eyes. paranoia finally subsiding although urge to close my eyes still filled me with fear that i may forget to exhale and thus die.
4pm still no relief, i was finally able to look at my phone which had been buzzing all day. couldnt operate the phone at this point.
7pm absolutely no reduction in heart rate, sun setting, thought the dark would help calm me, waited to get the familiar yawns but no chance. starting to really worry at this point.
8pm finally reached out to a friend through text to come help me.
9pm friend arrives and brings me a 6 pack of boost High Protien Shakes. i guzzle 2 and feel human again. we have a conversation. he rubs my back but i cannot fall asleep.. i can close my eyes at this point which is some releif.
3am 24 hours since i ate the half, thank god i didnt eat the other half... heart rate still up almost the same as before. 2 more shakes. still having to perform exaggerated exhaling to feel somewhat normal.
4am thoughts running wild, very creative thought process with chapters in my novel virtually writing themselves. i decide to turn the light onand write.
4am-6am heart still going crazy, wrote three chapters. feeling speedy but functioning.
630am friend awake... we go to breakfast, i order eggs toast, sausage, iced tea. talking a mile a minute, feeling shaky.
8am back in bed. friend gone. i try to sleep. hallucinations begin. First, i am seeing all sorts of things coming out of thin air. This is totally different form the paranoia. the things i saw during the paranoia were object that had been "reassigned" or replaced by cameras or fakes... including my pets... But these hallucinations were new things appearing out of nothing. I decided that i was receiving a gift from the other dimension. The universe unmanifested. I talked with the guide(s) and was led through a series/practice session. Topic: how to see to the other side. I imagined this must be like what John Edwards sees. One highlight that I can easily describe is this: i tested the opaqueness of trying to see through my hand through the pillow. Even with this certainty that i could not possibly be seeing any movement or light coming through, i was still able (priviledged) to see all sorts of activity. by faces, animals, humans. In another dimension. It was an interactive session. At one point i thanked them for the opportunity but asked to be released and to only see black please... instantly, i was only seeing black, no more trails, no more spinning shiny whirls of essences in thin air, no more "behind the curtain" knowledge. And i finally slept for the first time.
9am-11am deep sleep . woke up in a hot sweat. wrote some more, talked to my BF on the phone for an hour. recounted the entire journey from beginning to end. heart finally feeling slower
11am-4pm sleep again. lots of dreams, crying, waking up crying bnut mostly from joy somehow.
4pm-6pm awake, tv, feeling a little crazy for sure.
6pm-midnight sleep again with no sweat this time.
Thursday... out of commission, agoraphobic, heart rate normal
Friday...had to call out of work again, feeling out of sorts still and totally disconnected from society
Saturday...first normal day.
Conclusions:
This was the worst experience of my life. And I have had a near death experience 18 years ago and it wasnbt this scary. I have learned a lot from this site with regards to MDxx and not MDxx. THANK YOU!!!