WEIGHT: ranged from 180mg - 260mg. Average pill was 240mg. Pretty poor as it means could get 1/4 of a pill less than one of the average ones.
LOGO/PRESS: clear imprinted € (euro) symbol that is centred. The thinnest pill however had a bad imprint of the logo. Press looks a bit dodgy, chipped edges, ranging a lot in weight and thickness.
COLOUR: Although called white euros these are beige (photo below pill is on a white sheet of paper to show colour). There is dirty looking specks/pieces of orange/brown throughout.
SMELL: strange smell it was just like a bunch of multivitamin tablets. I wonder if the smell was just the bag it came in?!? -upd- I checked with person I got em off an he had em next to multivitamin tablets, haha. So I guess these have no smell after all.
TASTE: bit chalky but decently bitter, good nasty lagging bitter after-taste of MDMA after chewing :P
EDGES: edges looked bit chipped, can see a 45° bevel on the back and face
SCORE/SNAP LINE: yer, on the back
TEXURE: fairly regular, not real crumbly or rock solid
--TEST KIT REACTIONS--
ROBADOPE: Good large scraping, No reaction seen after a few minutes. MEANING: contains no primary amines such as PMA, MDA, amphetamine, 2C-x
SIMONS: in first couple of sec, royal blue which ended up going purple after a while. MEANING: contains secondary amines such as methamhpetamine, MDMA, MDEA, ect
MARQUIS: using a good size scraping, immediately went orange with yellow edges then orangey, red <--speed reaction. A maroon or reddish purple was seen in around 2sec gradually growing and going darker and more purple <--MDMA reaction, not MDEA which turns purple around 6-8sec. Ended up at a blackish/dark purple with some yellow on the edges. There was no green seen at all as one other person reported or anything like a 2C-B reaction as I've tested 2C-B before and it goes yellow then fairly quickly green then after a few minutes it stops at a light blue. MEANING: Speed & MDxx reaction (very likely MDMA from old '97 Marquis chart and my years of experience testing pills)
TEST RESULTS: MDMA & methamphetamine
NOTES: I got these flat euros with the domed euros from my other report(http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=15611). They look similar and had the same test kit results. I think it's very likely to be from the same presser and have the same ingredients & effects as the other euros in that report.
This was my experience when I had one of these out a month and a half ago. I finally got a couple more and so have tested them and am posting a report.
The taste differed from the Mercs and Green Fish in that there was a lingering bitter after-taste like MDMA should. Good! Almost immediately my tiredness left and I felt awake and ready to dance again. So like the test reactions above I would highly suspect some speed in these. After around 30-40mins I began to feel a nice relaxed, peaceful, innocent and uplifting feel that I have not had in ages!! How odd a pill that actually has some MDMA in it!! The MDMA feelings mostly lasted around 1 hr after coming on B4 I was getting a bit depressed and up and down. I got this too from the Blue Stars of last October but another one usually fixes it. I think it's from an under dose of MDMA and also the speed pushing me the other direction from relaxed. There was not the muntedness or wobbly on my feet feeling I would associate with MDA or MDEA. I wish I had another euro on hand that night to really see if it fixed the high and removed the comedown or if it was other additives in the pill that were giving me the up/down feelings. After the 2 hrs of up/down I felt very tired again. I did a small amount of stimulants for the ride home. I felt very good again for hours and strangely this returned the MDMA feelings of uplifting/happy/innocent outlook on life. The next 3 days afterwards I had a special outlook on life was happy and had a nice afterglow. It has been a while since I have had anything with this MDMA happy feeling in it! I would probably rate these pills somewhere around medium dose (by toady's standards). I would think 2 should be enough to get a good steady high.
After recently testing these I think that the meth (ice) in these wouldn't be helping the comedown. In the past I have found this a "delicate" combo as in 1 MDMA+meth pill can be ok but 3 over the night or more can give the worst sketchy/anxious comedown. I'm sure the Dr. will be prescribing me some xanax for the next time I'm on these to knock the meth anxiety and make it smooth rolling and straight off to sleep after ;)
FROM TEST KIT REACTIONS AND FROM EFFECTS/EXPERIENCE I BELIEVE THESE CONTAIN MDMA + SOME SPEED (METHAMPHETAMINE). I WOULD RATE THEM AS MEDIUM STRENGTH. (I THINK MOST AVERAGE SIZED GUYS WOULD NEED 2.)
---UPDATE 14-APR-09---
So I tried these again. I won't do a full report but lets just say that I first tried a domed euro from my other report and it was only a very mild bitter MDxx taste and very weak effects.
After waiting then getting into these flat euro I found after the whole night (taking 4 flat euros and one domed one) this was the verdict... Even having with small amounts of xanax to help the methamphetamine anxiety I could still not get a steady MDMA high from these that lasted for more that 1hr or 1.5hrs. After taking around 2 pills I would get high and feel normal MDMA feelings happy, relaxed and open then after an hr of dancing I would feel depressed again. Taking another pill would bring me back up then soon enough I would feel depressed and worn out mixing in with feeling empathy and chatty.
I would still say this batch of flat euros is around medium dose MDMA + some Methaphetamine. I hadn't dropped pills in 1 month and it's unfortunate these pills (probably because of MDMA + meth) just didn't give me a good lasting happy feeling and kept giving me nasty comedowns.
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6 Comments
watership (member since December 1, 2007)
great report mate, well done
March 29, 2009, 4:14 pm GMTeyedrop (member since February 19, 2009)
wont find a better report on pill reports mate
March 30, 2009, 1:19 am GMTgood work (Y)
cellardoor (member since March 17, 2009)
Bet these were better than the thinner. Normally a good bean...
March 30, 2009, 9:05 am GMTpurplehaze1 (member since March 7, 2009)
double on these guys if you want a nice feeling.. but every second pill these days is a euro which is a shame
March 30, 2009, 2:13 pm GMTifried (member since March 20, 2009)
You could almost triple these guys to get the same feeling as a white smiley face(have yet to do a report) i had 2 days ago, definately a medium rating from me.
March 31, 2009, 6:26 am GMTAnd yes one of the best reports i have ever seen.
nesshy (member since March 2, 2009)
idk about u guys but i like my pills without ice in them
March 31, 2009, 9:15 am GMTGreat report!!