Had a mate come over and test these, the reagent is mandelin, at first it was green which if i remember correctly, is amphetamines. the mandelin then went dark blue.
(^^ i think that means MDA)
Ive eaten a few of these tonight and i am completely fucking on a nother planet, but its not the great lovey dovey feel of MDMA. its almost like a massive stone with awesome closed eye visuals, and some open eye visuals, such as patterning of the walls, people appear to be wearing glasses when theyre not, and hideous acne scars that arent real also...
A good pill but NOT MDMA.. at least not by my standards
i should also point out that although the mandelin went a bit green at the start, i have not noticed any effects similar to speed.
lots of eye wobbles though!!!
PS, on the mandelin results box,"blue" is not an option to select, so i have to leave that blank.
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17 Comments
waspman (member since October 2, 2005)
The picture has come out REVERSED!!!
October 2, 2005, 4:47 pm GMTWTF?!?!
waspman (member since October 2, 2005)
i should also point out that the dimensions of the pill arent exact... I was ruling them with a leatherman knock off....
October 2, 2005, 4:48 pm GMTcomplex (member since September 29, 2005)
lol funny. Yeh my friend said he tested these up and they came up speed like but he said they were okay kind of roll?
October 2, 2005, 7:04 pm GMTmr sparkle (member since September 30, 2005)
I would just like to add that I tested these personally with Marquis, Simons and Robadope. The combination of Simons and Robadope confirmed that the Monsters Inc around brisbane are infact MDxx - and not MDA. And I agree with Complex - my Marquis result showed initial signs of Amphetamine but was quickly overtaken by the MDxx result, and after personally consuming these I can assure you these have a major speed component.
October 2, 2005, 9:56 pm GMTI have posted a report on these myself, but for some reason it was moved to the North American section. To see pictures of the test results, see this link:
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=656
trancemission (member since October 2, 2005)
i can also vouch these are cheap MDA locals, had 3 spread out over a nite, never got the loved up euphoric feeling u get off MDMA or solid peak for that matter. just the fuct feeling u get of MDA with some visuals, wasent pleasent at all. MR Sparkle what is MDxx? it's obvious u don't have a clue, the X's represent a unknown substance, e.g MD A , MD MA , MD EA, do your reaserch b4 you post.
October 3, 2005, 11:54 am GMTraoulduke (member since October 3, 2005)
I had a look at these and they were putrid. Fucking rubbish if you ask me. I wouldn't have one.
October 3, 2005, 8:27 pm GMTcomplex (member since September 29, 2005)
Hey trancemission, i think mr. sparkle knows what the hell he's talkin about, if you read his report, and if you remember any from the past, he knows his pills. Im not sure if mda is in the mdxx family, im not that clued up on chemistry. But I do find it weird you can vouch that these are cheap mda locals? How'd you come up with that..? Cos a mate of my sisters granmas' cousin's neices' nephew's brother said they come from amsterdamn, or was it holland, jeez i forget now.
October 4, 2005, 12:34 am GMTcomplex (member since September 29, 2005)
i kinda thought mdx was mda, and mdxx was usually mdma or mdea? What is it guys? Any more info from any E nerds?
October 4, 2005, 12:36 am GMTmr sparkle (member since September 30, 2005)
Haha! Tancemission get off your high horse buddy :) 'do your research before you post' ... are you serious? I ALWAYS refer to any of the secondary amine MD family chemicals as MDxx - because the tests I performed cannot positively deliniate between them. If you bothered to look at my test results, you will see that the monsters inc in brisbane tested positive for a secondary amine, and negative for a primary. Therefore I concluded that MDxx was an appropriate abbreviation. Unless I have absolute proof that a pill is MDA, MDEA, or MDMA - then I will continue to use MDxx... is that ok with you?
October 4, 2005, 9:30 am GMTAnd yes, Complex - you are 100% right. MDxx is simply an abbreviation for an unknown secondary amine MD family chemical (MDMA, MDEA etc), and MDx as an unknow primary amine MD family chem (ie MDA) Cheers for your backup! :)
mr sparkle (member since September 30, 2005)
October 4, 2005, 9:33 am GMTtrancemission (member since October 2, 2005)
for the record
October 4, 2005, 9:50 am GMTMDMA = METHYLENE DIOXY METH AMPHETAMINE
MDEA = METHYLENE DIOXY ETHYL AMPHETAMINE
MDA = METHYLENE DIOXY AMPHETAMINE
MDE = METHYLENE DIOXY ETHYL
from my experience with ethyl and meth amphetamines i can asure u there were not MDxx as stated by mr sparkle, but a strong dose of clean MDA,
mr sparkle (member since September 30, 2005)
Trancemission, I appreciate that you have you own view - and I'm not looking for an argument. But I fail to see what was wrong with what I said?
October 4, 2005, 11:42 am GMTDo you not see that I tested the monster incs with 3 different reagents, each helping to conclude that they were not in fact MDA, but MDMA or MDEA. I wholy agree with the 'body stone' effect from these pills - but a users judgment is rarely good enough to conclude what chemical is in a pill. I would trust regents results well before I go by my own, or someone else experience on a pill. If your confident they arnt MDMA, then I would be more inclined to suggest MDEA - atleast that coincides with the reagent results.
Would you like to look at the test results again?
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=656
Mr. S :)
complex (member since September 29, 2005)
yeah but he knows the dudes that make 'em, theyre cheap local mda pills remember!@#$@!! lol you're a classic mr. s , i really appreciate your posts mate!!!
October 4, 2005, 6:35 pm GMTthedirtyone (member since October 4, 2005)
MAte Mr Sparkle's Posts R the shit. always trusted his posts n never went wrong i had these over the weekend they arent that bad not half as good as the orange doves or butterflies going around but still charged and danced for atleast 3.5 hours on one of these and 2 caps so ill recommended these for a good night out. roll on n on boys n girls
October 4, 2005, 11:50 pm GMTtrancemission (member since October 2, 2005)
alrite mr sparkle looks like u and ur buddies have shut me down,nuff said, at the end of the day i ain't here to argue, just to educate n save ppl there dollars , as long as postive comment and reports are posted about pills like these on pill reports, kids will read em and continue to buy them making a demand for them and flooding the market with cheap MDa or MDea, from what you have writen u seem like you know what ur on about, i advise you to try em if you haven't, then come back and leave a comment :)
October 5, 2005, 3:51 pm GMTmr sparkle (member since September 30, 2005)
Thanks trancemission - its good to see we share the same views. Hopefully we'll start to see more of the good stuff comming through :)
October 5, 2005, 8:21 pm GMT"i advise you to try em if you haven't" <-- Dude, I have both tested and consumed these... I have posted the link to my report twice already :)
iamanaughtyboy (member since October 7, 2005)
Hi guys... Not the MDA/MDxx argument again... ;-)
October 7, 2005, 3:16 am GMTAnyway, as a matter of interest, last night my D came over to use my testing kits with some green ones of these. They came out the same as the test results for the yellow ones mentioned here. The test results with both Mandelin and Marquis initially indicated the presence of speed, then went to black, indicating MDxx. The Simons test went blue, indicating the presence of secondary amines (ie: either MDMA or MDEA, and meth-amphetamine). The Robadope test did nothing, indicating that there are no primary amines (ie: no PMA, MDA, or dex-amphetamine).
As a matter of interest, MDE is chemically identical to MDEA. Shulgin called it MDE, but many people (such as myself) add the "A" on the end as a reminder that it's still a type of amphetamine. Also, unless someone can point out some chemistry that I'm not aware of, MDA is the only primary MD-amphetamine (other than the MDA isomers: MDA with the amine sticking out in different directions). Because of this, I use MDxx (meaning some sort of MD-compound - not exclusive of MDA), rather than MDx. Also, secondary MD-compounds include MDMA, MDEA, and the more rare branched secondary MD-compounds. If in doubt, it's best to read Shulgin's info (PiHAKAL - you'll find it on the erowid.org web site).
Party Safe! :-)