Pill Report: White Dove (large)
White Dove (large)

New Zealand

Posted by
February 27, 2007
Date Submitted
Analysis of White Dove showed 1-BZP and 3-TFMPP, along with 1,4 dibenzylpiperazine (an impurity from bzp manufacture) and another chemical suspected bk-MDEA or bk-MBDB, unconfirmed. (Note: these are the cathinone analogues of MDEA and MBDB)
Last Update
March 6, 2007
Round, Flat Top, Bevelled Edge
4.0 mm
10.0 mm
Suspected Contents


jayme (member since July 21, 2006)

pressed by the same machine perhaps, if theyve all showed up the same?

February 27, 2007, 10:24 pm GMT

stargate (member since February 27, 2007)

This report is just for the White Dove, the others have seperate reports they are just all in the same image for comparison purposes and that's how they were photographed on the day.

February 28, 2007, 12:13 am GMT

jayme (member since July 21, 2006)

they all look so finely pressed though. lovely detail in the pic aswell

February 28, 2007, 3:52 pm GMT

mr charisma (member since September 29, 2005)

Looks like the manufacturers lashed out and got a good pill press considering they weren't actually manufacturing an illegal drug in NZ...(Aside from the possible MDEA)

IMHO it's kinda odd that they tried a MDEA/MDBD + BZP+TFMPP combination here. Why bother trying to use MDEA if they were just making a scam pill anyway? (Possibly just to trick the testing kits???)

March 1, 2007, 10:11 am GMT

splatt (member since September 30, 2005)

It wasn't MDEA it was the ethyl version of methylone (suspected)

March 1, 2007, 4:36 pm GMT

groova (member since May 11, 2006)

Beautiful press.....shame about the contents.

March 2, 2007, 12:24 pm GMT

masterwobbles (member since January 23, 2007)

ever thought they mite b trying new chemicals so if they do get caught then they cant go to jail cos this drug isnt in the coppers classification as 'illegal'. i dont kno just a thought...

March 3, 2007, 7:19 am GMT

ongr8form (member since March 6, 2007)

Does anyone know anything about the louis vuitton (LV) pills around in Auckland at the mo??

March 6, 2007, 5:26 am GMT

cyberdyne (member since September 30, 2005)

with regards to beta ketones of analogues, debateably illegal...structure is so similar to an illegal substance that iy might get thwackd by the catchall provision or even the analogue provision...with ol jimmy making a declaration that the police will try and prosecute for bk-mdma in future it would be risky at best....its no longer available openly from chem suppliers in china etc.

With regard to louis vuttons, similar press to euros with the large dome, shitty LV press overlapping, browny colour, slightly smaller than euros...very veyr mixed reports coming through.

I found them shit and dirty, long over the top onset, fizzled to negligible peak, unpleasantly sweaty etc, wouldnt reccomend

March 6, 2007, 8:53 am GMT

starsky (member since July 27, 2006)

I didnt test the LV's but had an AWESOME night on them. I have a high tolerance so I doubled them and had everything youd expect from a good pill. Loved up, telling everyone how beautiful they were, chatty, eye wobbles, dancing. Lasted strongly for about 2.5 hours then still yummy and chilled for another hour. Then home to sleep, was pretty "twichy" when tryin to sleep but thats normal for me. Woke up in the morning BRAND NEW. Hadnt had that clean MDMA feeling in so long! :)

March 7, 2007, 2:15 am GMT

starsky (member since July 27, 2006)

anyone tried grey LV's in aucks at the mo ?

March 15, 2007, 3:46 am GMT

fastbabe (member since May 31, 2007)

White doves... fairly crap in my opinion. i always seem to get the dud version and it includes Special K instead. Im usual mellow then im out like a brick bout three hours after dropping

May 31, 2007, 5:21 am GMT

float05 (member since June 23, 2007)

Is it possible that Stargate themselves are introducing these piperazine based pills on the street as vindication of their 'safe', legal 'alternative' to ecstasy products we are all aware of. They have been selling like hotcakes to those that do not have the connections to source MDMA or have become unsure of what they are taking due to the lastest batch of copies flooding the market. Not sure, dont buy... Stay safe ppl

June 23, 2007, 12:20 pm GMT

float05 (member since June 23, 2007)

Plus... guess who in NZ has access to high quality presses and tons of cheap piperazines?

June 23, 2007, 12:23 pm GMT

westaucks (member since May 17, 2006)

oh float you dickhead, you think they would post a pill report saying they are adulterated pills if they did?

July 11, 2007, 10:42 pm GMT

hevfun (member since October 16, 2007)

Float05, might just be a 'bit' paranoid, but i think Float mate is saying Stargate could have introduced them>>NOT wrote a report on them>>>With so many>"Just a thought' I' thought Id add my own.

July 21, 2008, 11:50 am GMT

fir3mrk (member since January 13, 2009)

Hello fellow rollers, i would just like to sort everybody out, as I've had these little doves many times before [more overall than "REAL, illegal pills"] & they were like a medium-dose MDMA pill [intense plateau lasts for about 3h] but cut with speed, as I couldn't sleep on my first experiences with these [the total experience from 2 pills last about 7h].
These are LEGAL PILLS made by online headshop
Before the great BZP ban, many have said these contained BZP [possibly TFMPP also]. But in the last year, they've changed the contents to [cited from their website] "Ketones, Dicalcium Phosphate, Magnesium Sterate". The last 2 being non-psychoactive fillers, it's clear that the "Ketones" are the active ingredients, probably bk-MBDB [butylone], this presumption also believed to be true by many of drugs-forum.com users. My advice & rating? I would say 4.5/5 if you don't mind eating Research Chemicals [RCs], the feeling [euphoria] is intense, loads of energy, but be advised: if you take 2 or more on your first experience with them, sleep is a bit difficult to achieve, but smoking some THC-containing substance or taking K [better works combined] will make it much easier.

My same large review applies to these pills as well:

Keep it safe & Make the most of a party/rave! :)

January 13, 2009, 2:22 pm GMT