Posted by
August 7, 2012
Date Submitted
dralexpatterson
Description
Blue blank pill, no logo, 8*4mm, hard compressed pill, beveled with a score on the back, no noticeable smell from the pill.The speckles on the pills pictured are brown mdma crystals from the bag it was in..these don't have brown speckles.
Confirmed to be AMT by ecstacydata.org
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2586
Same as these:
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=29031#comments
Strange pill,I think they might be a new Research Chemical, I have been told that they are very trippy but not pipes, everyone on them were enjoying them so they are not pipes. Didn't take them myself.
Test results with reagents show some strange colours
From Top, clockwise:
Marquis: Slow to Dark brown speed type substance
Mandelin:Slow to Brown green, I think ketamine type substance
Mecke: Slow to grey/black usually indicates mdma but this would go an inky black and there is no reaction confirming that on the rest.
Simons: went salmon pink slowly
Robadope: No reaction, reagent ran into simons.
It is very strange to see Simons go salmon pink, I have seen it before testing a powder.
Wonder what's in these, will update report later bit ropey after weekend. Don't take these expecting a classic mdma type buzz.
Sent to the lab for analysis
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2586
Result AMT, a psychedelic
Confirmed to be AMT by ecstacydata.org
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2586
Same as these:
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=29031#comments
Strange pill,I think they might be a new Research Chemical, I have been told that they are very trippy but not pipes, everyone on them were enjoying them so they are not pipes. Didn't take them myself.
Test results with reagents show some strange colours
From Top, clockwise:
Marquis: Slow to Dark brown speed type substance
Mandelin:Slow to Brown green, I think ketamine type substance
Mecke: Slow to grey/black usually indicates mdma but this would go an inky black and there is no reaction confirming that on the rest.
Simons: went salmon pink slowly
Robadope: No reaction, reagent ran into simons.
It is very strange to see Simons go salmon pink, I have seen it before testing a powder.
Wonder what's in these, will update report later bit ropey after weekend. Don't take these expecting a classic mdma type buzz.
Sent to the lab for analysis
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2586
Result AMT, a psychedelic
Last Update
November 14, 2012
Logo
Blank
Colour
Blue
Shape
Round
Height
8.0 mm
Width
4.0 mm
Texture
Hard shiny
Edges
Slight bevel
Suspected Contents
Other - please see report
Rating
Tested Only
Warning
Yes
Tested
Yes
Mandelin Reagent
Green
Marquis Reagent
Other - Please see description
Mecke Reagent
Other - Please see description
Robadope Reagent
No Reaction
Simons Reagent
Other - Please see description
Consumed
No
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27 Comments
weetvanwanten (member since August 17, 2009)
August 7, 2012, 8:36 pm GMTExcellent report dr ;)
mdmable (member since December 13, 2011)
I doubt these contain ketamine. Ketamine needs a very low dose.
August 8, 2012, 2:23 pm GMTCurious about the content they really have!
jawswingh (member since July 16, 2012)
I only made an account to write a comment about these bastard pills, I broke my own motto taking these I always said I'd never take a pill with no logo and without doing a bit of research. Dropped 2 at 23:00 and after and hour and a half felt nothing so dropped another 2( I know stupid) started gettin twitchy and taught my heart was gonna burst through my chest at 1:30 but no classic e feeling, love buzz, warm come up, music appreciation or urge to dance. Got home at 4:00 and tried to sleep, no chance! Next thing I knew I was wired!!! Voices in my head crazy hallucinations, sweating, nausea, unable to eat or drink and had eyes like saucers. Tried to smoke weed to come down which had little or no effect. Managed to get to sleep at 18:00 next day until 19:30 when I woke up things were still pretty trippy, blurred vision still unableb to think straight. I felt normal and my eyes had gone back to normal size by 23:00 24 hours later. it was by far the worst Experiance of my life and the people I dropped with had similar expiriances. The trip I can only describe as similar to acid, not st all what I expected, avoid these biscuits like the plauge they are rotten to the core. Be safe
August 8, 2012, 3:42 pm GMTbogman (member since March 27, 2008)
thanks for testing and reporting, being waiting to get one of these to do a proper test.
August 8, 2012, 4:23 pm GMTonly heard bad things about these.nice to see you around and doing quality reports, as always.
dralexpatterson (member since August 5, 2008)
I doubt they contain Ket or any of the aforementioned, sent a sample to be analyzed.
August 8, 2012, 4:58 pm GMTjawswingh (member since July 16, 2012)
Is there a new batch of these pills the ones I had didnt have the red speckles?
August 9, 2012, 5:38 pm GMTdralexpatterson (member since August 5, 2008)
Oops, the "red speckles" are in fact lovely brown mdma crystals that were in the bag, i made sure to wipe the pill I tested, these are blue the whole way through with maybe some tiny white speckles sorry.
August 9, 2012, 6:10 pm GMTjawswingh (member since July 16, 2012)
Oh lucky you! I'd say the best thing about them pills were the speckles of MDMA because the pills are dirt man ha
August 9, 2012, 6:55 pm GMTwascro (member since August 10, 2012)
these pills could contain AMT the effects jawswingh has described sound very similar to AMT. such as slow come up,nausia,hallucinations and the pills effects lasting a long time. definitly sounds like AMT are something similar
August 10, 2012, 12:19 pm GMTdralexpatterson (member since August 5, 2008)
Good man wascro, AMT does turn marquis brown, can't find information on the other reagents though.
August 10, 2012, 4:09 pm GMTHere's what's on wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-Methyltryptamine
erowid:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/amt/amt_faq1.shtml
yumyumdma (member since November 28, 2011)
looks like the pills i had in portugal...... from the reagent testing they did they concluded it was mccp.... could easily be a different batch tho.
August 12, 2012, 2:27 pm GMTdralexpatterson (member since August 5, 2008)
I didn't bother with testing with the mCPP kit as everything reacts positive with it.However, mCPP doesn't react with any of the other reagents and the people I was with on them have been taking ecstasy for 20 years so I assumed it wasn't your regular pipes. We will know when the results come back from ecstasydata.org might take a few weeks.
August 12, 2012, 3:05 pm GMTbumble beeees (member since November 29, 2007)
My guy had these aswell gave us a couple to test for free but these 1s have glitter in em
August 17, 2012, 11:07 pm GMTdralexpatterson (member since August 5, 2008)
These might be good candy flipping at a festival, as long as you know what you're in for. Have to find out what's in the feckers first though!
August 18, 2012, 9:16 am GMTdralexpatterson (member since August 5, 2008)
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2586
August 22, 2012, 7:45 am GMTAMT, an interesting drug, might try one at a festival yet. Read up on the effects but don't take if you need to keep your shit together! Anyone know the legal status of these in Ireland?
bogman (member since March 27, 2008)
thaks for the lab report, well done.
August 23, 2012, 6:37 pm GMTdralexpatterson (member since August 5, 2008)
Just a heads up, these might be dangerous to combine with ecstasy,be careful and research before you do. Stay safe.
August 25, 2012, 4:35 pm GMTcraig1873 (member since April 16, 2011)
a report i've just done on these, i'd definitely have a read !!!
August 26, 2012, 2:20 pm GMTwww.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=30177
beirne1991 (member since August 1, 2012)
these pills are all over my place the last 6months, iv had some good times and bad times on these, if you take 1 full one and wait 2-3 hours and take a half every hour or more iv never experienced anything like them i was buzzing the wensday night with me mates before we knew it was friday still outa of our bins laughing at each other hysterically was the best buzz of my life not like normal mdma but more trippy and fun, iv made the mistake of taking these like 2 then another 1 and another an hour later but was mad, heart beating out of my chest fealing like i was gna explode iv even took a seizure thats only from taking them stupidly beware they are dangerous but if you take them right you will never experiance anyting like it, be safe
September 8, 2012, 2:11 pm GMTbeirne1991 (member since August 1, 2012)
id also like to no exactly whats in these and if the are a controlled substance which i dont think they are i think they are a research drug, as i have been arrested with a good amount of them
September 8, 2012, 2:13 pm GMTdralexpatterson (member since August 5, 2008)
As far as I know these are illegal to sell but legal to possess,in Ireland anyway. They are unscheduled in the UK. I hope the gards lab test them properly. These were lab tested as AMT which I have left links for your research.I wouldn't take them in the amounts you have suggested. I haven't consumed any myself either but from reading other peoples views they are strong.Stay safe.
September 9, 2012, 9:20 pm GMTkevinerouseccs (member since February 18, 2012)
Still feeling strange after taking 1 of these last night, really trippy, couldn't sleep all night and I am just about the attempt eating nearly 24 hours later! Bad buzz, not MDMA but felt very similar at times.
September 28, 2012, 6:06 pm GMTbamboosh (member since November 6, 2012)
ive been an ectasy user for around six months ,so fairly new to it still ,everytime ive been on pills has been aweaome until I took theese , popped one about an hour later with no effect took a half , an hour or so after feeling a bit of a buzz but very slow took another half , then all of a sudden started getting a hit very trippy , and got worse through the night felt like I was going to have a heart attack , pulpitations coudnt urinate , and increasing anxiety , like nothing ive had before , wont be going near theese again
November 6, 2012, 2:49 am GMTadamcogley56 (member since November 23, 2012)
took one of these pills at 9 last night by myself met up with me mate at 10 who also just took one of these pills felt nothing at all so we both took one more each and in the half hour or hour after that we bagan to feel really happy (before i continue please keep in mind this was my first time ever doing pills) so i imagined this is what yokes would be like i felt great amazing and happy all at once and we got kicked out of my mates house at half 12 so we were walking around anyway for about half an hour and all of a sudden i start trippen balls seriously trippen balls like i was seein the moon wearing a bow tie and when i looked directly at a group of trees the light shining from between them was showing me itself as groups of people staring me i just stood der staring back at these people i was seeing in a amazement dis is the first time i ever took anything and it was the best buzz of me life but i would not cnsider doing any more than 2 f these in one night unless uve been ding them a while but i took one and a half was not expecting to trip and it was still the best fun i ever had
November 23, 2012, 8:30 am GMTwhosthatguy (member since January 5, 2013)
Full disclosure: MDMA user for 3 years, mostly pills. Have also taken acid while on MDMA.
January 5, 2013, 4:02 pm GMTTook 3 of these over a 12 hour session with drink. Several other people also taking it, all for the first time. Would not recommend such a high dose to any first timers (at all!).
Dropped one after 5 bottles at around 11:00pm. Come up can vary from very slow (2hours+) to very fast (~15 minutes in my case). There's no rush or sudden "up" feeling, just a gradual euphoria with pupil dilation, chatty-ness and texture fascination. Jaw clenching and muscle tension starts around a half hour after initial "up" feelings. The buzz is very visual - the party was kitted out with colored lights and strobe, which everyone really enjoyed until late in the evening, when the strobe in particular became too intense. Felt a bit ill for about twenty minutes, went to the bathroom for a piss and threw up a small bit. Immediately felt great again. At around 12:30 I dropped another half - time seemed to go very very slowly from first drop to second. Second drop of half hit like a tonne of bricks - about 10 minutes later I was lying on the couch watching the lights in my own little fantasy world. Started getting energetic after about 15 minutes on the couch, so started roaming around, having a few chats, dancing and putting on tunes (music appreciation is definitely a big factor). Started getting rushes of euphoria around 1:30 and took another pill (total now: 2.5). The next few hours were a bit of a blur, with a lot of drink taken, lots of chattyness, dancing, stupid ideas and general craic. Around 4am took my final half. Really intense acid like visuals, brief feelings of body dissociation, warm and cold rushes and very strong texture fascination. Ended up squeezed into a closet with blankets and a few other people, all talking shite and enjoying being wrapped up and squeezed together. Around 9am became very very tired and feeling a bit shitty from the drink (hangover started kicking in). Following few hours were come down, not overly harsh but not pleasant either, with no sleep. Residual jaw clenching and musle tension lasted all the following day until evening time, when I got some weed and had a joint. Had feelings of general weirdness all day, especially visually. Would say that the effects of the AMT lasted, all in, around 28 hours, at which point I fell asleep.
Overall its a very visual buzz - I saw no hallucinations, as such, but lots of very acid like movement in curtains/clothes etc. No one else reported hallucinations either, but lots of acid like descriptors going around (pulsing walls, visual trails etc). Some didn't handle it very well and had an unpleasant time of it, particularly anyone that took more than a full pill and had no previous experience with hallucinogens. Those that had a better idea of what to expect had a better time, going with the flow of things. In general there was a very positive atmosphere all night, despite the odd person feeling shitty for a while. Those that struggled had good moments followed by bad, but mostly reported a positive experience overall.
To any first timers, I strongly recommend starting at half and going from there. Be warned: the second drop is universally more intense than the first, regardless of dose. Everyone who dropped more than 1 reported a really intense come up from the second drop.
All in all, I really enjoyed myself and had a great time of it. The best way I can describe it is as more social acid; very very much like acid, but without the introspection that often comes with an acid trip. The come down is crappy, and definitely not recommended for anyone who has shit to do the next day (extreme lethargy about covers it!).
Don't expect anything like an MDMA or ecstasy buzz off these pills! These are hallucinogens through and through. A small bit of drink to start with goes down well - I would say that me continuing drinking on was a mistake, and largely responsible for the most unpleasant parts of the come down.
dralexpatterson (member since August 5, 2008)
Thanks for the tripreport whosthatguy, I't might be safe to say to start with half and wait at least 3 hours and expect to be up for a 10 to 14 hour trip.
January 14, 2013, 12:06 am GMTyiplife (member since June 4, 2013)
Take these early in the night as you can expect to be unable to sleep for 12+ hours after consuming your last one.NOT suitable for the unexpierienced tripper.strong trippy buzz off these ones.acid like visuals with shroom like mindfuck,quite possibly AMT. not the most sociable pills. your going to lose a day on these for sure :).
July 30, 2013, 10:41 am GMT