First of all, let me state that I took this tab without testing it first. I had loaned my reagent out to a friend and had no intentions of rolling. I was happy to test these out based on the actual reports from friends whom I trust and have known for years that these tabs were definitley worth checking out.
These tabs do contain some type of stimulant. What kind, I am not sure, and am hesitant to say since I did not test it, and because of other conditions, and I'm not really sensitive to uppers. DH is, and he comments: "they don't feel like meth bombs, they feel similar to the VG's". (in reference to the lovely detailed light green VG's that were around a few months ago).
The color of these tabs is VERY hard to distinguish! Even under home lighting conditions (and about 30 minutes of arguing with myself), I still couldn't decide what color they were. They are a greyish-lavender color. The specks that appear to be blue in the pic are not - they are a light purple. The darker spots are a dark purple. There are very tiny specks of white, NOT huge or even medium chunks of white (that is common with meth bombs in the south). Tab is pressed hard, and was hard for me to split with my hands. (Most tabs are not hard for me to break apart since I have small hands.) I split one to see the inside contents, and the color/appearance was the same throughout. The surface of the tab also had a slightly "shiny" appearance, as a coated tablet would have, but not excessive. They do look like the VG's in characteristics (press, hardness, ect) but are not quite at their level.
Dropped 1 (split in two) at approx. 9:20PM. Could feel the initial tingle in my feet around 10PM. I did not take my usual detailed notes, as I found it extremely hard to look at my laptop screen a few minutes thereafter.
Starting feeling the comeup by 10:15PM (almost one hour after first ingesting). This tab really surprised me, as I was not expecting to feel that nicely after only one tab since we have been imbibing pretty regularly as of late. (Last roll was approx. 3-4 weeks prior)
Around 10:30PM, it REALLY hit me! I even got a bit nauseous. (Which never happens, could be experience or crappy tabs?) I distinctly remember the point of getting that auditory "clarity" (the only way I can explain it) that I only get with a really good tab. The music sounded AWESOME...I can't remember enjoying music and wanting to dance so much in a very long time!
From 10:30PM on, I had a very nice, happy, dancing around the house kinda roll. :-) I remember thinking that music had not sounded that good for so long!! I could not stop grinning or bobbing my head...but that could be due to the fact that I declared control of the music for the night, and I was listening to one of my faves (Sander Kleinenberg). Got extreme eye wiggles around 11:15PM (about when I peaked), and jaw clenching was almost non-existant. Didn't feel a comedown, but wanted to continue my journey so I crushed one in my mortar & pestle and parachuted it around 1:30AM. Could feel it rush up in approx. 45 minutes after ingesting. Rolled quite nicely until 7AM, when I decided to stop dancing around the house. :-) Was still rolling when I went to bed.
This *e* did lack the "empathy" or "loved up" feeling though. What's up with that lately? Same thing as the VG's...great roll but lacking that ??? something.... Hard to describe. Can't quite put my finger on it, but I don't mind it if it means I get a good tab. But it would be nice if it was there!
I did notice there were more visuals than normal, leading me to believe that this is a mix of MDXX, MDA, and some type of stimulant. I usually only get visuals off of MDA, especially the kind that I was having (no streamers or streaks, more like somethinng moving out of the corner of your eye, or slight waves.) The waviness was not "wall breathing" types of waves like other hallucinogens, but more like...look at a straight object and it appears to start waving in a slow, fluid motion to the end of the object...if that makes sense?
I give this tab a 7 out of 10 if there was such a thing, as this is an excellent roll, but not the best I've ever had.
Highlights: overall happiness, music sounding awesome, nice head high, no cracked out feeling!, generally a great tab all around, no heavy crash, & even woke up hungry the next day!
Could do without: whatever speed is in it...really...if I want speed I'll buy it, ok? Please? Wish these had the 'empathy' I was looking for. Shouldn't have played music so loud - I guess someone forgot to tell Sander his set was over (in my head)....
As always, YMMV. I have my reagent back, and hope to be able to test one of these. If I do, I will update with test results. Be safe & *plur*! :-)
~beatdown4life~
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13 Comments
var13 (member since September 29, 2005)
awesome pic/and report.....also, what the hell is up with that lack of empathy in a pill lately....i know havent lost the magic either ...b/c every now and then a pill comes around that does wonders for my already perfect relationship...... ;) glad to hear to had a great time....
October 27, 2005, 1:55 am GMTps sometimes when i did loan out a tester i scraped and labled the pill for future testing...just a thought, I would usually forget...lol
racehorse (member since October 6, 2005)
those are light purple, violet even. Ive had smily faces with a nose and they had that same colour and score. I have also had the purple benz with the same logo but it was on both sides. that was early winter last year. both were decent pills
October 27, 2005, 3:22 am GMTravenousblonde (member since October 1, 2005)
Var~
October 27, 2005, 4:56 am GMTThanks! I have other pics of these tabs over on BL. I don't know what is up with the lack of empathy in the tabs lately. Like you, I get them every once in a while, but not like I used to. It was so nice to get a decent tab that was not full of meth!!! :-)
racehorse~
They are very light purple, indeed! But they still have that greyish overtone to them. But they sure are pretty and I wouldn't care if they were puke green...LOL A tab with the Mercedes logo on both sides like this one? Even with the beveling (and score?) on the back? Interesting.
~beatdown4life~
vtex256 (member since October 27, 2005)
i enjoyed these pills.
October 27, 2005, 4:52 pm GMTracoonx (member since October 1, 2005)
I hope the lack of empathy is not a result of tolerance.
October 27, 2005, 8:25 pm GMTI had enjoyed the ability to go out on the local streets and actually not want to kill the morons driving around me. Plus, when I smile at other drivers it confuses the hell out of them, and I like that too...
var13 (member since September 29, 2005)
Dude i have rolled weeks at a time...and when i get a pill that has that quality i get empathy..and sometimes i have rolled 2 nights in a row and gotten empathy on the second night with a different pill...so i will have to respectfully disagree with you.
October 28, 2005, 12:16 am GMTpluralchemist (member since October 26, 2005)
woodpecker were human we cant just gain immunity to something by using it alot.. if you stop using MDxx for a couple years you can guarantee you are going to be rolling your balls off with loooots of empathy.. unless you inject yourself with some sort of antidote for MDxx I think your ok lol.
October 28, 2005, 4:12 pm GMTravenousblonde (member since October 1, 2005)
Plural~
October 28, 2005, 5:32 pm GMTI think you misunderstood Woodpecker. We're talking about tolerance, which ALL human beings are susceptible to. We always remember the "first time" of doing 'whatever' - because the feeling is so intense and new. The times after that rarely get better, KWIM? For instance, I have never had the same experience/feeling as I did when I rolled for the first time. I know I'll never have that again, and I'm ok with that. (Due to more rolling that I care to *evah* admit, and the quality of MDXX now available.)
IMHO, I think the lack of empathy thing comes with a combination of two factors: one being prior use/misuse (as the case may be), the other being the quality AND quantity of MDXX in tabs nowadays. I think us more xperienced tabbers need a better threshold of quality/quantity to reach that empathic level that we crave. But that's just my .02.
~beatdown4life~
racoonx (member since October 1, 2005)
Plural, I can't speak to the tolerance of MDMA over time beyond my experience, which is not as great as lots of others here. But I have an example of something that is lifetime tolerance, and stopping for even years does not reset the sensitivity back down low. Opiates. Way back when, when I first used H, a half bag would just give me the best warm rush of love and peace. At most, I would do it every friday for a while when I was working with an ex-boxer junkie. I only worked with him in summers and holdidays. I never got back to that initial feeling, like Ravenous said, and every time I started I'd be right back there at bag and half or two bags. After years of occasional use, I went threw a period of time where I was activley addicted, using once a day, then three times a day to keep the sick away. I was up to about 2 grams of tar a day. Someone almost died from doing my cotton (taking the cotton I had used to strain my shot, and washing it out to shoot the remnants.), so I guess you could say I had a high tolerance.. lol. After that period, and a long period of struggle, I had a few years clean. Totally clean. NADA, nothing, not even alcohol, pot, or any thing prescribed. Just natural. For complicated reasons, I decided to shoot some more dope after maybe 4-5 years of clean-ness (inactive addiction period). By your theory, I should have been nicley buzzed by a bag. I did 1 1/2 anyway, and really only felt the rush. I kind of thought it was just crappy. Next day or so, I shot 4 bags of something different, and caught a buzz, but not a real good one like I had been craving. Two other guys fell out on 1 each, so it wasn't the dope, it was me. My tolerance just jumped right back up. I have been in inactive addiction since, and just recently reached a point where I don't think about, or desire in the least, heroin. And that is even with easy access, I could have it in my hands in 3 minutes if I wanted. I've never been able to say that in my entire life since I was 15. However, I do still take the occasional pain med for a severe pain problem. Don't feel it as a buzz though, unless I take 5 (200mg) or more in a way that is not prescribed. I think 200mg would kill a non-user of opiates, 5mg is the amount that are in the pain pill that have the same med, that used to be hard as hell to get from a doctor. Let's see... 200/5 is 40 tablets... Yep, I think if Joe Average Citizen did that many, it would be lites out unless someone got him to a hospital in time. And I've done as much as 800mg in 12 hour period, and know people that have done more. (and also knew personally of 3 that died from them).
October 28, 2005, 7:10 pm GMTSo, sorry for the long story, just wanted to demonstrate that tolerance is lifetime.
ravenousblonde (member since October 1, 2005)
The whole tolerance thing has had my mind ticking.
October 29, 2005, 1:02 am GMTI do quite a bit of reading, and remebered this subject in one of the ridiculously thick books I attempt to wrap my brain around every once in a while. I had to look in the glossary to find what I was looking for (damned book is too thick, k?) but I think what we may be looking at here, and in many other cases, is tolerance *and* the "hardhead", as the "god of MDMA" describes it: Hardhead = "the occasional person who requries 200mg of MDMA, or 300mcgs of LSD, just to get some feelings of effect...whatever the drug may be...s/he will need 2x to 5x the dose than most...this could be due to psychological barriers, or being born with a nervous system and physical chemistry which is unusually insensitive to the effects of a drug." {loosely quoted from Dr. Alex Shulgin, 'PHIKAL'.}
Now that I've said that, and you all can ponder it, I will shut up before our wonderful mod TRS gets on to us about useless comments! :-)
~beatdown4life~
therollingstoner (member since September 29, 2005)
Thanks for the report blonde. Very well written. Yer reports are always on par. How ya been? Never see ya on aim. I think yer write about the lack of empathy being due to both use/misuse and lack of quality beans. -mod
October 29, 2005, 9:43 am GMTravenousblonde (member since October 1, 2005)
Hiya TRS~
October 30, 2005, 10:12 am GMTThanks for the props. :-) Ya know, I really need to put a quicklink in my toolbar to AIM...out of sight, out of mind, ya know? *g* I too think I am (somewhat) correct about the use/misuse/quality thing. It has to be a combination of both. Back in da day (haha) when I used to roll muuuuch more than I do now, I never had to worry about meth. Hell if you would have said 'meth' back then, people would have thought you were *really* messed up bc at that time (at least here) there was no such thing as meth. Speed, yes, but not 'meth' in it's current day and form. And I will also that this to any detractors - I rolled more often back then than I evah thought about rolling now. Plus, back then, I *knew* my stuff was good. I don't even think there was even a website like this on the 'net when I started.
Whoa. Now I'm really dating myself. <zips trap> *g*
~beatdown4life~
ravenousblonde (member since October 1, 2005)
Wow...I just got these again....wheeeeeeee!
November 26, 2005, 12:50 am GMT~beatdown4life~